July 14, 2013
Throughout my years of knowing and loving K-Pop, I've came to acknowledge that every single idol goes through a varying amount of training (usually at least 2 years) prior to debuting, most companies and idols making it out to be an excruciating yet fulfilling process of disciplining the idol and improving their talents. Regarding this claim, I took the opportunity to look into training and it's correlation towards talent then realize that there is none--wondering exactly how this can be then coming to the conclusion that not only is training life not as excruciating as it seems (well, save companies like SM & Star Empire) but also, not as useful as it seems, as well--talent not even resulting from training but mostly resulting on the person's own ability because well, the training system sucks.
The ex-JYP trainee, donleebaby, explains a brief outline of not only JYP's training system but also giving a little peek to what other training systems are like being that many companies, though may not be the exact same when holding the training process may have a somewhat similar training pattern.
But what confuses me is how can people train for years but still lack talent as compared to co-workers and members of the same group and company who've trained for much less?
But what confuses me is how can people train for years but still lack talent as compared to co-workers and members of the same group and company who've trained for much less?
As known across the SONE fandom, Girls' Generation's Taeyeon trained for an estimated 3 years and 3 months prior to debut... whereas on the other hand, Girls' Generation's Yoona trained for more than twice that amount--a whopping 7 years yet still isn't the best at anything among the group other than looking pretty. Adding on, her talentless-ness is not even limited to vocals, Yoona, having the second longest training duration in Girls' Generation (after Jessica by 4 months), is the fourth best dancer in the group, not even a decent rapper and isn't fluent in any other language other than Korean to make up for it. What the hell? How can that even be possible with all those years of training? And really, if that is the case, what exactly is training for?
SISTAR's Hyorin and Ailee sound good naturally... but if they weren't, who's to say they would sound so good being that the only other decent singer in SISTAR is Soyu but she's not even relatively close Hyorin-level. And if there's supposedly 'experienced' vocal coaches among companies, how can trainees and entertainers who've trained 'longer', 'harder' while 'climbing so many walls and beating so many obstacles [insert fangurl crey hurr]' than these two women sound equivalent to dog shit? Shouldn't they, if they actually have the great resources and use the time like they say they had and did, be vocal powerhouses, as well? But why aren't they?
To me, it seems like in the entertainment company's dungeons, they don't even train people efficiently... if train them at all! In fact, the people who were naturally talented from birth are the ones who are acclaimed the "talented" ones yet not even near the height of their potential because they still have easily correctable problems with their voices (ex. Jessica and Sunny - nasality; Bom - bad high notes), whereas the people who suck just stay sucking and don't even get an acceptable amount of attention to better their suckiness. Ultimately, if there was actually logic and proper training in the entertainment business, the ones who are talented would be even more talented and wouldn't have middle school level vocals while the ones who are untalented would at least be audible.
Likewise, if training is so bad yet so helpful, why isn't everyone be a main vocalist or main dancer? Why is there even space for a useless member when they've been training for years and should logically have enough skill and talent to be utilizing?
And it's not like they don't even have practice or have some sort of training post-debut, a live example being Wonder Girls' Sohee who started to improve her vocal skills after debut, near Be My Baby times. The overall problem is that they do, in fact have so many opportunities to just increase their talent throughout the years however, they don't. Why?
How could people like SISTAR's Bora even be a rapper when her raps tempt me to claw off my ears?
How could Lee Hyori even metaphorically exist--the epitome of untalented success in the Korean entertainment industry?
And how can people train but have dwindling talent rather than improving talent, I ask when looking at Park Bom's famous pre-debut singing clip when comparing to her vocals from before to now:
Lastly, the biggest excuse I witness towards this topic though is:
"Unnir and oppar didn't mean it! They're not singers, they're dancers/rappers."
Let me just drop this off:
With the undeniable lack of correlation between training years and talent, do you think K-Pop idol training is useless? Comment below.
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SISTAR's Hyorin and Ailee sound good naturally... but if they weren't, who's to say they would sound so good being that the only other decent singer in SISTAR is Soyu but she's not even relatively close Hyorin-level. And if there's supposedly 'experienced' vocal coaches among companies, how can trainees and entertainers who've trained 'longer', 'harder' while 'climbing so many walls and beating so many obstacles [insert fangurl crey hurr]' than these two women sound equivalent to dog shit? Shouldn't they, if they actually have the great resources and use the time like they say they had and did, be vocal powerhouses, as well? But why aren't they?
To me, it seems like in the entertainment company's dungeons, they don't even train people efficiently... if train them at all! In fact, the people who were naturally talented from birth are the ones who are acclaimed the "talented" ones yet not even near the height of their potential because they still have easily correctable problems with their voices (ex. Jessica and Sunny - nasality; Bom - bad high notes), whereas the people who suck just stay sucking and don't even get an acceptable amount of attention to better their suckiness. Ultimately, if there was actually logic and proper training in the entertainment business, the ones who are talented would be even more talented and wouldn't have middle school level vocals while the ones who are untalented would at least be audible.
Likewise, if training is so bad yet so helpful, why isn't everyone be a main vocalist or main dancer? Why is there even space for a useless member when they've been training for years and should logically have enough skill and talent to be utilizing?
And it's not like they don't even have practice or have some sort of training post-debut, a live example being Wonder Girls' Sohee who started to improve her vocal skills after debut, near Be My Baby times. The overall problem is that they do, in fact have so many opportunities to just increase their talent throughout the years however, they don't. Why?
How could people like SISTAR's Bora even be a rapper when her raps tempt me to claw off my ears?
How could Lee Hyori even metaphorically exist--the epitome of untalented success in the Korean entertainment industry?
And how can people train but have dwindling talent rather than improving talent, I ask when looking at Park Bom's famous pre-debut singing clip when comparing to her vocals from before to now:
Isn't training to improve a talent--not decrease it? Or did I miss something?
Not to mention, idols like Girls' Generation's Hyoyeon, who still is an amazing dancer and is talented in dancing, used to have dance solos like in Into the New World however, now barely even gets enough screen time to show off her dancing skills, making her want to go solo. I'd call that dwindling talent, as well, because the talent is getting wasted.
Not to mention, idols like Girls' Generation's Hyoyeon, who still is an amazing dancer and is talented in dancing, used to have dance solos like in Into the New World however, now barely even gets enough screen time to show off her dancing skills, making her want to go solo. I'd call that dwindling talent, as well, because the talent is getting wasted.
Lastly, the biggest excuse I witness towards this topic though is:
"Unnir and oppar didn't mean it! They're not singers, they're dancers/rappers."
Let me just drop this off:
sing·er
/ˈsiNGər/
NounA person who sings, esp. professionally: "a pop singer". Synonymssongster - vocalist - chanter - minstrel - bard - poet
With the undeniable lack of correlation between training years and talent, do you think K-Pop idol training is useless? Comment below.
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