April 05, 2014
The couple whom everyone, except rowdy KhunToria shippers, already knew were a "thing", has recently confirmed that they are actually a "thing" to the media. 2PM's Nickhun and Girls' Generation's Tiffany are now the fourth confirmed to have-happened-at-least-once relationship, with Girls' Generation's YoonA, Sooyoung and Hyoyeon whom we have speculated was dating on a previous article, anyway, in the lead. This couple, different than the rest has been met with more than just love: many people are taking Girls' Generation more into account than just the coupling and commenting as to how Girls' Generation is at their last straw. Whether that's true or not, we'll have to wait and see, but for now, I'll mostly focus on these sort of comments as a whole:
[+79, -10] SNSD is slowly on the decline
[+523, -155] SNSD's over now, farewell
And a comment from a regular non-K-netizen:
i'd say snsd is one step to their downfall.. sones can say its not true but their popularity isnt only about their fans-
Even Girls' Generation's Yuri has pointed out the validity of the statement. She realizes the short span of girl groups for example, S.E.S, FIN K L, even foreign ones like Spice Girls and Destiny's Child, reaching the top then plummeting to the ground in just years with maybe one or two from the disbanded group remaining in the limelight. And although no SONE wants to admit it, Girls' Generation is not free from that obvious ending. Their recent scandals, more specifically, Girls' Generation's Hyoyeon apparently attempting suicide and hitting her now ex-boyfriend (who's nearly a decade older than her) has emerged this feeling of bitterness towards the group of 9 girls. Many people have turned their backs on the group for years simply because they're growing weary or tired of them, however, after the poor feedback from their recent albums, starting from their Japanese works to even the I Got a Boy and Mr.Mr. album, even the smallest things are taking a blow on their buit-up image. Don't get me wrong, Soshi is still strong, but I wouldn't be very surprised if a few scandals later (at their rate, another scandal is simply inevitable), less and less positive comments will appear and will rather be overtaken by hatred. I mean, they're not getting any younger. Their music is not getting any better. Their attitude controversies with Taeyeon and Jessica nor their dating scandals are getting any less memorable.
Perhaps they truly are at their last straw.
Regardless of the empty threats of SONE fans on the Interweb, the resilient truth should still be made known. No one can say they haven't yet reached their potential or they still have a lot of time left as we always hear and see defenders argue.
They have reached their potential.
They don't have much time left.
They have already begun their gradual fall from the top since The Boys was released.
I'm sorry but not really sorry to break it to you.
So:
The top girl group, Girls' Generation, will not remain Girls' Generation for much longer as stated in a previous article in which bitter argument was released in the comment section, delusion on SONE's part. Although we should be happy the girls are dating, we should also be aware of their obvious fate which is just around the corner. Splitsville. Disbandment. SoshiGone. Likewise, Girls' Generation's Yuri is intelligent and should shed more light on their fate to soften the blow of delusional fans. The fate is simply inevitable. Even though many promise to hold their favorite girl group at the top, it happens to everyone and it can never be changed.
To be honest, I must agree that SNSD is declining :( Although I'll always support them, the music is not as good (ever since The Boys) and the recent scandals have lost them fans. Especially since many girl groups are coming out with the sexy concept and taken ahold of the spotlight. I don't think they'll disband, just gradually lose popularity like Super Junior. SNSD really needs another hit single to stop this from happening...
ReplyDeleteI agree that SNSD needs to have another hit song - but a quality song. I think this is an overall problem with SM in the last like 5 years... they have just been producing crap and relying on their name and it's starting to drag their artists down (SHINee and f(x)).
ReplyDeleteIn watching some recent kpop interviews with SNSD (they are getting fewer and fewer) I feel like these girls are unraveling. I use this word because I feel like their frustration over the years and some of their real personality is starting to show. Also I felt that the release of all these dating information at the beginning of 2014, right before their comeback was really a ... PR move. What are the chances that SM would let this news come out all at the same time? I have a feeling that 2014 or at the latest 2015 is going to be the end of SNSD (end of an era really haha) and I look forward to the next SM girl group... but I doubt it's going to be the same. LSM really sold the shit out of these girls in the right way and since about 2010 a lot of the big three have been failing miserably to promote their groups responsibly.
ReplyDeleteI think the #1 proof that SNSD are declining is the fact that SM seems to have noticed this and are planning a "sister" girl group to EXO. Since EXO are obviously replacement for Super Junior, I'm predicting this new girl group will be replacement to SNSD. I'd also say SNSD have some years left yet, seeing as SM would probably not let them go until they have their new money makers set.
ReplyDeleteyeah, but they seem to be actually producing good songs for EXO. I guess they just don't really give a fuck about those other artists as long as they have someone to bring in all the money? Others seem to be just bonus to them at this point.
ReplyDeleteI think EXO is doing... alright. I think I have higher standards for SM artists in terms of quality of song and dance because of the immense resources that they have in comparison with some other groups.
ReplyDeleteGuess it depends on your preference. Or on whether or not you've listened to EXO's albums rather than just the title songs. Because their albums are really wonderful, or at least that's what I think. As for dancing, their choreography seems to be getting better. But you can't expect overly complicated choreograpy since there are TWELVE members and not all of them can be great dancers.
ReplyDeleteYea... My suspicion by the lack of promotion of SHINee and f(x) that they are going to be promoting large groups... more bang for their buck. I think that even if they have the number for another snsd group they probably won't be as big. SNSD was like the spice girls lol it was just timing really and good marketing. Everything afterwords is gonna be not as big
ReplyDeleteYea I'm not a big EXO person.. but I take your word for it. Like snsd japanese albums are actually pretty good... I don't know why they can't do the same for their korean albums. The dancing... I think is pretty on par with some other boy bands out - their choreo is def a selling point but that have some of the best choreographers in the world working for them so ya know..
ReplyDeleteWell SNSD's jap albums aren't really my kinda of thing, but they're definitely better than Mr. Mr. If SM really cared about SNSD's Korean promotions, they'd have produced a similar album. They don't. They know the fans would love anything either way, and SNSD have a fanbase big enough to still be wanted on variety shows and stuff. So they'll still make money without SM having to actually "waste" effort on them.
ReplyDeleteYes, I think so too. I think the next girl group will have a big number of members, but I don't know if they won't be as big as SNSD. I've only gotten into Kpop a year ago, tbh, and I can tell SNSD has the biggest fandom, possibly even bigger than those of boy groups, but I haven't really been able to witness the craze about them.
ReplyDeleteIn general boy bands tend to do better for a variety of reasons but a big one is that this market is made for teenage fan girls (I feel like boys tend to obsess over other things at this age lol). The reason snsd fan base is so big is because they were able to attract female fans making their fanbase probably the most balanced in the industry. Sones far outbeat any boy band - which is amazing if you think about it haha
ReplyDeleteYes, so for SM's new group to be popular... they have to be able to do the same thing. But it's very hard for female fans to like female idols. They need to be down to Earth, appear always extremely nice and humble, be a bit of a dork and always look pretty. And especially, NO sexy concepts. I don't understand why, but girls seem to be allergic to sexy concepts LOL.
ReplyDeletehahah if your talking about sone I think it was purposeful (and smart) from the side of SM because so much backlash can come from the sexy concept. There are groups like SISTAR and Girls' Day who have sort of successfully done the sexy... but I don't think they can really be really big. SM has done a good job of bordering between strong sexy femaleish and like.. really sort of slutty sexy lol
ReplyDelete'I have a feeling that 2014 or at the latest 2015 is going to be the end of SNSD'
ReplyDeleteAgreed. All the 2007 girl groups have fell apart this year. Even though SNSD has more of a driving force, I doubt they're far behind.
'But it's very hard for female fans to like female idols.'
ReplyDeleteOn the contrary: SNSD's fanbase is filled with female fans. I agree with the fact that they have to be down to Earth, appear nice and humble, dorky and pretty but they would be basically a replica of SNSD if they went with this therefore, I bet there would be a bunch of backlash. I bet SM Entertainment realizes this and is trying their best to get around it. Just like how EXO is basically like Super Junior but they added the fact that these 12 boys (now 11) have... wait for it, SUPER POWERSSSSSSS~ not to mention, though Super Junior has extensions geared to the Chinese market, EXO is more prominent with that and at their debut, already signaled the Chinese market/Korean market divide in their idols even though they tend to collab together a lot (not that much with Overdose promotions, though)
I do realize that SNSD's female fanbase is huge. But it seems they're the only girl group for whom this statement is true. Other girl groups always have a huge number of male fans.
ReplyDeleteTBH I don't even consider GG's "sexy" concept MVs to be... well, sexy. The girls just wear revealing clothes and sing songs that aren't cute. That's not what I consider sexy.
ReplyDeleteI agree that sexy girl groups don't seem to get much attention. SISTAR are apparently very successful, but it's basically impossible to find a SISTAR fangirl, and they only seem to be popular domestically (or maybe it's just me). Girl's Day are even less popular, and they only resolved to the sexy concept to save their careers after flopping so much with the cute concept. However, it did seem to work quite well for them. I think that's because they gradually got more and more sexy. They kinda prepared the audience.
It's just really about timing. snsd was able to nail that cute-ish concept up through 2011 and the girl groups surge came out with cute because that's pretty much the only thing anyone knew. Then they realized they couldn't compete with snsd and switched to sexy. Then there was an overabundance of sexy so the one group that did cute - apink - was able to standout and do a lot better than expected (considering how small acube is). Now all the groups debuting are reverting back to the cute concept lol
ReplyDeleteYea... I always felt that EXO was suju 2.0. I'm sorry I just really didn't see the talent from suju except a couple of people and it seemed like SM didn't have enough time to put it together or something. EXO is a lot more cohesive for some reason. But EXO probably can't dominate the way suju did because there are just so many boy bands out today.
ReplyDeleteyou also left out not saying that ONE stupid comment or actions. Seriously look at secret and t-ara.
ReplyDeleteSimilar to my opinion, I have said that I think Girls' Generation have maximum of two years left as a group. The dating is just a sign that the girls have starting to think on the life after GG. Keeping so many girls (women) together for such a long time can't be easy, and after so many years as stars I also think many of the girls are getting a bit tired of being stars and wants a more normal life. How fast the end come probably depends on their ability to deliver new hits, because as long as they have a big fan base they are a money machine for SM and SM will probably pay the girls nice money to keep the them going. So it could be their chance to earn some serious money before they end it. But not many of their latest songs can be called hits so it will be interesting to see how long it will last.
ReplyDelete"I do realize that SNSD's female fanbase is huge. But it seems they're the only girl group for whom this statement is true. Other girl groups always have a huge number of male fans."
ReplyDeleteSave 2NE1
On the contrary, I think EXO can possibly dominate because they'are already doing a bit of that right now! Their fan base may not be as big as the older generation groups but damn, the strength is quite... enormous!
ReplyDeleteAgreed. Snsd popularity is declining, slowly but surely. Ever since the dating news of both Tiffany and Hyoyeon, many fans has appeared to turn their backs against the groups. (Strangely, ppl cared more about tiffany's relationship) I remember upon Mr Mr MV release, quite afew loud fans are trying to achieve like 5m views in one day. That view count was achievable in the I Got A Boy Mv.
ReplyDeleteThen, they were still liked and preferred. They hardly have any scandal and has a rather clean image. What happened in the end, Mr. Mr Mv barely reached 1m views in one day. Even now, the mv sits at 24.5m views after 3 months, roughly 90 days.
My point is. SNSD has lived past their hype train. SM tried to create as much hype as they can for the mini album. This album took them 1year and 3months to release. The song failed terribly. No only is it a bad song, it took so long to prepare and has to go through so many delays. Coupled with the dating issues. Fans are disappointed. SM realizes this and is only trying to make as much money out of them. Look at this, SNSD is currently going through rounds of concert in Japan. They just finish their last tour half a year before. Geez.
Boy groups are actually become popular again. Most of the biggest girl groups are now facing difficulties. Snsd, tara, kara etc. (i dun know much about 2ne1)
Tara and kara with their scandals. SNSD now.
I feel that Kara might actually never return to their past popularity even with the new members.
There is still hope for Tara though. Despite the scandals. Tara's releases are actually good and is well received with the general public. Tara is even able to break sales despite many people hating on them. Which is strange.
Other groups like Apink and sistar may start to take over the main groups as queens. Tara might be able to gain back their status even.